User talk:Ellin Beltz
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I noticed the talk page semi-protection - that's a definite sign of an active admin! Keep up the great work!  INeverCry 04:27, 31 March 2016 (UTC) |
- Also, if it makes you feel any better, at least you don't get messages like these. That's this guy... INeverCry 04:31, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
Proposed deletion of certain images by Mihaiprunescu1
No problem. If they are not interesting enough, you may delete them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mihaiprunescu1 (talk • contribs) 08:43, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
Deleting emblems of United States Air Force emblems
It appears that you have been busily deleting images of United States Air Force emblems. Yet, I cannot find that any of these have been listed at Commons:Deletion requests. Is there a reason you are avoiding listing these pages there? Lineagegeek (talk) 23:24, 1 October 2016 (UTC)
- I would be interested in seeing some examples as I have uploaded a lot of USAF images. Thanks --Fæ (talk) 04:53, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
- Hi Lineagegeek: Forgive my confusion, please see my [1] Contributions to see that the most recent actions regarding emblems were to close two deletion requests for Air Force emblems as kept.
- *Commons:Deletion requests/File:31 MSS.jpg
- *Commons:Deletion requests/File:31 MSG.jpg
- There were several more on that day's deletions which I hoped to research but I ran out of time. I had previously searched for sources and found none for several other emblems which were sent to "no source" and had been there for a week. I don't think any were Fæ's uploads. I would have been delighted to find sources for the ones I removed. There is a major source page at [2] which has to be searched visually over multiple pages to find any matching images. If any of the ones I removed are later found to have a source, I certainly won't oppose a COM:UNDEL. I do the best I can with what I have at the time of each action. And with apologies, again I have run out of time - it is the weekend and family first. Cheers! Ellin Beltz (talk) 21:44, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
- Your deletion puts a stop to anyone who is not an administrator doing any research. The "no source" deletions for likely public domain material remain contentious, as demonstrated by the lengthy recent Village Pump discussion. It would be great if you could avoid the temptation to delete after just 7 days, especially for images which have been hosted on Commons for years without challenge or incident.
- Valid USAF emblems (and their simple derivatives) are certain to be public domain and there is no hard requirement to provide a source link. In some cases a textual explanation may be sufficient. I don't know the figures for how many USAF emblems have been later discovered to be fakes, but my presumption is that it must be rare or never.
- I would like to examine these, along with the image page text that went with them, but to do so I would need to be able to see the images in a list. When you have time could you or perhaps @Lineagegeek: make that possible for the good of the project? If needed you could email me the files and I'll host them on https://www.flickr.com/photos/wikimediacommons so that anyone can have longer than minimal default of 7 days to review them. Thanks --Fæ (talk) 06:50, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
- I'm not sure how one looks at a deleted image to review it. I assume admin permissions are required to view one. Part of my concern with these deletions lies in the fact that there was no notification for them. Similar images were transferred to commons from en:wikipedia (see the 31st Wing units) by a bot, and unless a human being visited the image page during the seven days it was posted as having no source, no one would have the chance to comment on the proposed removal. (Another admin used the proposed deletion route for similar problems with the 31st Wing units, so there was an opportunity to comment). The second problem is that when the bot moved the images to Commons, it hid the sources that were originally listed for the images. In the case of the 31st Wing units, if you look in the Original Upload Log in the comments, you will see that among the comments is "Source: 31AW/PA." Although not an internet link (no requirement for that), I believe this sufficiently identifies the source as the Public Affairs Office of the 31st Wing (which happens to control the content for the Aviano Air Base web site, where these particular images are available online). I have a little less confidence than @Fæ: that some of these may not be officially approved emblems, but I think at least some of the removed images may be victims of a "hidden" source because of a bot's inability to list the source in the proper place. I have seen this problem with emblems that @Jcb: has listed for deletion, and I'm afraid that another editor has failed to assume good faith in commenting on Jcb's proposals for similar removals. --Lineagegeek (talk) 12:11, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
