Quick Note:
Whilst I'm fast asleep I plan to let the Flickr2commons tool run and basically there's thousands (and I mean thousands!) of images that will be uploaded
Nothing should go wrong but if it does then please block my account (which I assume would stop the uploads?)
Anyway unfortunately the batch uploading is dead and uploading so many images with the F2C tool does effect my internet and laptop speed so hence why I'm doing it before I go to sleep,
Anyway thanks, –Davey2010Talk 23:18, 12 July 2016 (UTC) ________________________________________________________________________________________
Hi, welcome to my userpage, My name's Dave & I live in Strood, Kent, UK
I created the account in March 2011 but started editing roughly around July 2015 (so technically have been here for 1 year, 3 months and 2 days),
I've made over 12,000 edits here (as of 01/06/16)
I do a variety of tasks here such as: Uploading images from Geograph & Flickr, Going through the "Unidentified buses/vans/cars" cats and identifying the vehicles, Renaming files & categories and Reporting image copyright violations,
I do have email enabled but don't tend to answer Wiki emails at the moment because of privacy concerns so it's probably best to simply leave a message here - I'll get around to creating a Wiki email at some point in my life ... I promise .)
Identified this van purely on the garden wall brickwork as well as the house brickwork/windows!, (Isle of Dogs being a tiny area I knew it couldn't be hard to find :)) > Ford Transit front and rear
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I'm here to nominate Krassotkin to be our next Commons admin. He has 37,000+ edits here, with 1000+ of those edits in the Commons namespace. He's an administrator on two smaller projects and a bureaucrat on one of them as well (specifics are available on his userpage). He also holds the closer right on Russian Wikipedia, which gives him the ability to delete pages there, which is a good indication of trust on one of the largest WMF projects.
Here he holds the Image Reviewer and Patroller rights, and has a good level of experience participating in the area of CSD/DR. Krassotkin is also a busy OTRS member who regularly requests undeletion of images at COM:UDEL. I think he could definitely use the admin tools here for his OTRS work and for helping to delete copyvios.
I've always found Krassotkin to be a mature and calm contributor with a helpful and dedicated attitude toward his work here on Commons. He can communicate well in English, and is a native speaker of Russian and Ukrainian. His language skills in Ukrainian are an extra plus since Ahonc is our only Ukrainian-speaking admin at this time.
I think Krassotkin would be an excellent addition to the admin team here at Commons, and I hope that the community agrees. Thank you for you time and consideration. INeverCry 21:44, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
Candidate's acceptance:
I accept the nomination. I love Wikimedia Commons and actively participate in our project during the last year. You can see my wiki experience and preferences on my user page. Recently I am more active as an OTRS-agent, license reviewer and filemover. I also regularly reviewed new files/edits and like to help beginners. I have experience of administrator in some other projects and I hope that I'll be helpful for Wikimedia Commons with this status. Thank you for your time and comments! --sasha (krassotkin) 04:44, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
I strike support, after read the article with google translate. I tend to be agreed with Natuur12, maybe I will vote later. Christian Ferrer(talk) 12:59, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
Oppose If someone write an article in french wikinews talking about me, my opinions or my actions. And write this article without (or against) my consent, and after that (that's already enough) maintaining this article despite some discomfort for me. I will likely not appreciate. This is what is called the least, if not worse, a lack of courtesy. Christian Ferrer(talk) 16:58, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
And if any other newspaper will write about you? We work for the public interest. Press is an integral part of a free society. Press is one of the major channels of the free dissemination of current knowledge. --sasha (krassotkin) 20:40, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
And I don't understand how Wikinews are related to Commons. There's one set of rules, but here is other. These are completely different projects. A conscientious editor of Wikinews can not participate in Commons? --sasha (krassotkin) 20:53, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
If any other newspaper write about me? I keep the freedom to like or not. Wikinews? another newspaper would have been like. Firstly there is obviously many ways to write articles or to work in press, do not assume you represent the press as a whole. Press, freedom, knowledges are not a magic words, they are only what we do with. And I let you the responsabilty of what you do in their name. Your contributions seems good on Commons, and I often see you in my watchlist for good reasons, this explains my support. However the personality of a candidate is, from my point of view, very relevant for a request for adminship. Tendency not to maintain conflicts, encourage difference of point of views, courtesy...and a lot of other things are all criterion for me. Christian Ferrer(talk) 21:32, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
Your voice is only your decision. And I thank you for it. My questions were about Wikinews only. I hope after your answered you have a few different opinion then before. --sasha (krassotkin) 21:48, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
This article claims that Russian WLM organizers and Wikimedia RU members act in the interests of the Russian government because they are funded by the Russian government. Could you please provide evidence for this statement? Namely, prove that financial support from a company (not from the government itself) was given under the condition of a certain action in the interests of the government. This is a very serious accusation, and it has to be rigorously proved or considered defamation, which it obviously is. --Alexander (talk) 20:43, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
I feel inside, that documents demanding certain action from Wikimedia RU in interests of Russian government do not exist (and have never existed). And I did not find such claim from the article. Taivo (talk) 21:27, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
Then you are surprisingly blind and miss the point of the last paragraph, which is otherwise completely disconnected from the rest of that article. Also the title of that article is essentially a defamation, because Wikimedia RU made no statements regarding the political status of Crimea.
There is also a part regarding myself saying that I advocated this Crimean thing "for several years". Given the fact that the article was written in September 2015, and Crimea was annexed in March 2014 (exactly 1.5 years earlier), Krassotkin implies that I did something before the events actually happened and tried to organize WLM in Crimea as part of the Russian WLM long before Russia put claims on that region. This is the most odd statement and a clear-cut case of personal defamation. --Alexander (talk) 22:13, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
Support - I have seen this user name many times recently, always in a helpful way - Jcb (talk) 08:59, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
{{s}} Has shown good judgment and an even temperament the many times I've seen his contributions on COM:OTRSN and elsewhere. Storkk (talk) 09:09, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
Struck. I'm not qualified to judge based on a ruwikinews article, but his subsequent interaction on this page with his detractors is worrying. Storkk (talk) 09:12, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
Oppose No confidence. --A.Savin 10:50, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
I was going to support the candidate, but I'm not sure in light of this, are you able to provide some further information which I can use to inform my decision. Nick (talk) 10:56, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
Because of multiple issues where quantity was considered far above quality (also concerning the missing or careless categorization of uploads on Commons), because of arrogancy, unwillingness to reflect and to learn, and last but not least — what Atsirlin reported here (4th paragraph) I don't like at all. --A.Savin 13:11, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
@A.Savin: I have great respect for you. And I'm really sorry that you've gotten such impression about me. I tried to change it. But I did not succeed. I'm so sorry. --sasha (krassotkin) 13:46, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
And just because you want to have the sysop bit, you are now so confessed? Well, my personal opinion is not of big importance and colleagues may think different of your qualities. --A.Savin 14:01, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
I always appreciate your work, and I told you about it before. And indeed, we have different views on many things. --sasha (krassotkin) 14:20, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
Neutral --Alan(talk) 16:21, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
@Alan: Why? Neutrals and opposes usually give a reason out of respect for the nominee. INeverCry 16:38, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
@INeverCry: I'm not able to decide in favor nor against. Simply :-P. --Alan(talk) 16:46, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
Support - Me & Krassotkin have had a few run ins in the past but hey who doesn't!, Helpful user, Knows this place extremely well and IMHO would make a great admin. –Davey2010Talk 18:59, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
Oppose I'm sorry but the ru-wikisource article is uncalled for. Natuur12 (talk) 21:10, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
Support I see him sometimes at Commons:Undeletion requests/Current requests. His experience on COM:UDEL and OTRS, plus the fluency with Russian and Ukranian language, will make him a good admin for us. It's actually hard to find a Russian user that has the potential to become an admin here on Commons. --★Poké95 04:11, 1 October 2016 (UTC)
Converted to Weak support. I used Google Translate on the article and the WLM 2015 Russia talk page, and it seems I cannot see clearly the biased and personal attacks (respectively). But other Russian users expressed their concerns here, especially A.Savin which is an admin here, so that's why I weakened my support. But I believe that this user will learn from his mistakes, per Wikicology's comment below. --★Poké95 12:44, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
Support - per INC. Wikicology (talk) 07:22, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
{{s}} Let's keep politics out of here --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 09:09, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
Stroked per Atsirlin below, I was not aware that the issue was more than just politics. --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 15:02, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
Well, it's not about politics when someone is careless with the personality rights of our users as done in the ru-wikisource article. This is problematic. Natuur12 (talk) 11:50, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
You mean Russian Wikinews, don't you? This article is written by public open sources and is about non-governmental organizations, its public leadership, and their political activity. Newspapers write on sensitive topics: this is the purpose of Wikinews activity and reflected in the mission. Or what do you mean? --sasha (krassotkin) 12:58, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
Yes, wikinews. Using someones portrait in a far from neutral article (propaganda) can be seen as a violation of their personality rights. Plus I have a problem supporting editors who don't apply the Audi alteram partem-principle when writing a newsarticle. Natuur12 (talk) 13:07, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
There only participants of the meeting (member of Wikimedia Russia) that made this decision on the photos. Traditionally, we upload photos from our meetings to Commons for illustrate reports about it. It is deliberately public information.
Before (and after) writing this article I asked for comments privately and publicly. Only someone who knows the Russian language very good can understand answers there. But I would say dryly - they declined to comments. However, members of Wikimedia Russia edited the article after publication (see Kaganer and Александр Сигачёв).
You should not pay to much attention to this article. There are only our "family problems" in Wikimedia Russia. We discuss, argue and even swear. But we have warm friendly relations. As the saying goes: "lovely curse only amuse". For example there are the same members of Russian Wikimedia "from the article" with me and several notable persons at a recent photo. ;-) --sasha (krassotkin) 14:12, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
I don't think that the personal attack "your nasty character" addressed to Atsirlin is as innocent as you claim here. Hopefully I'm not alone with it. --A.Savin 14:47, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
I really think so. As Alexander written below "we had indeed a more friendly relation in the past". I wrote it as a friend, in the hope that it will help him to change for the better. But it hasn't happened, as we have seen. --sasha (krassotkin) 15:39, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
"Warm friendly relations". Ha-ha...
Concerning the comments from the WLM organizers before the article was published, Krassotkin asked for them in a very sarcastic manner saying that he collects information for the "International Tribunal". Before doing that, he wrote a lot on the talk page he did not really belong to (it was a conversation between the Russian and Ukrainian WLM organizers, and Krassotkin was neither of the two) ending up with several personal attacks like the one Alexander Savin just mentioned. --Alexander (talk) 15:09, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
Really. We have, but you have not. And I will not repeat why... Alexander Savin just mentioned.
There I spoke in jest to defuse the situation. But in the first place I joked on myself and I had good faith. It can see anyone who can read. --sasha (krassotkin) 20:27, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
Neutral I am unable to support in light of the Russian project issues, but I believe Krassotkin will learn from the concerns and don't believe they will present a fundamental risk to Commons. Their contributions to Commons are of high quality and would be sufficient to support (very comfortably) without the Russian project issues. Nick (talk) 12:35, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
Oppose. Like A.Savin, “no confidence”. I know Krassotkin for Russian Wikinews, because some periods ago I was a active user in this project. I write “was” instead “am” because I don't like ru.wikinews since he started to publish his articles. Mostly they are concern Russia-Ukraine relations and are not neutral, not depend on real facts. The crisis between Russia and Ukraine affects (ru: накладывает отпечаток) even on Commons. Recently there was one problem with this strange (for my opinion) file (see also this file). I don't sure if Krassotkin could solve similar problems. Just it. Also the argument “since Ahonc is our only Ukrainian-speaking admin at this time” is not correct because we have User:George Chernilevsky, who lives in Ukraine, Vinnitsya. I'm sure that George Chernilevsky underestimated the knowledge level of Ukrainian. --Brateevsky {talk} 17:02, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
Another comment not about politics, of course :). --sasha (krassotkin) 17:44, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
Oppose ..Maybe I will support at a later date. Being an Administrator is much more than handling files. Administrators need good relationships on all WMF platforms. That was not the case with ru-wikinews. Personal rights were violated. I understand mistakes happen.. but when someone asks you to remove content about them (especially when appeared in a negative manner), it needs to be removed. I can't trust krassotkin to follow the many administration guidelines if something simple like respect cannot be given to a user. My comment is not about politics. It is about rights and respect of others. Again, maybe at a time in the future. --CoolCanuckeh? 23:22, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
Oh, guys: 1, 2... Please, we do not need war. We are here for another. And this is a nomination only. Take it easy! --sasha (krassotkin) 07:28, 1 October 2016 (UTC)
OK, I have to make several comments here:
First, after my short contribution to this discussion, Krassotkin came to my talk page and tried to harass me by repeating defamatory information that he published in Russian Wikinews last year. He explicitly said "В целом же статья фактологическая, и в ней буквально все факты соответствуют действительности, под микроскопом" (The article is purely based on facts. All facts are real and can be checked under the microscope) and repeated the whole rubbish about me as the main culprit of the Russian WLM in Crimea problem. Then he was confronted with links to the talk pages from 2014, which disprove his statements completely. He failed to admit that he was wrong, but simply wrote "Не нашёл подтверждения обратному" (could not find any evidence for the opposite) and crossed out one sentence in his Wikinews article. He has also added a formal word of apology "Викиновости приносят извинения за ошибку" (Wikinews apologize for the mistake) without giving any personal apologies, although the issue is strictly personal, concerns false information about me, and definitely hurted my reputation, especially among the Ukrainian colleagues. I requested that the false information about me should be removed from the Wikinews article completely, but Krassotkin refused to do it. He also did not bother to remove defamatory information that he posted on my talk page yesterday and, of course, he did not consider apologizing for it. I leave you to decide whether it is a good course of action for a potential administrator.
Second, Krassotkin is repeatedly addressing me with "ты" (informal way of addressing a person in Russian), despite my objections about it. We had indeed a more friendly relation in the past, but such friendly relation is not possible any longer. I would expect at least a polite relation, but this is also not the case. Krassotkin stays extremely rude with me. When you think that his knowledge of Russian and Ukrainian is an advantage, please, keep in mind that he can also be rude using these languages.
I am not aware of the ru-wikinews issues but Krassotkin seems to have realized his mistakes and I think we could forgive him. Even the worst mistakes can be forgiven and forgiveness when appropriate is a virtue. Wikicology (talk) 12:00, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
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